Where Real Estate Gets Its Dirt

The education of Mr. Reffkin

Looks like CRMLS isn’t playing. They brought receipts and a little sick burn to Compass, CEO Robert Reffkin latest social media tizzy fit.

“The specific language that you recently pointed out on social media about listing control and display in the EULA has been there for years. Why that language exists requires a bit of a history lesson, so humor me as I explain how what we provide is a good thing to all parties. “

Here’s some more context

“For years, we had seen grey market activity by people who have access to the MLS selling its data to those who didn’t, which meant brokers and agents weren’t being compensated for the valuable information they provided. Conservative estimates for how much money was being made this way started at around $5 million per year, with the potential to have gone as high as $100 million. So, we saw an opportunity to monetize the data in a way that puts money back in the pockets of those who provided it. “

Think Napster

Here’s the whole thing if you want to read it. The second to last paragraph seems to indicate that Mr. Reffkin isn’t being totally sincere.

Okay, Mr. Reffkin, you got some people’s attention. You may feel like you’ve got us pinned, but the thing is, you’ve yet again ignored or refused to be bothered by some important facts.

I typically don’t get into the reeds regarding every defamatory claim about CRMLS that comes up on social media, but the misinformation you’ve spread is worth addressing and clarifying. Let’s just put things in clear terms right from the jump; CRMLS’s EULA doesn’t endorse taking control of listings away from agents or brokers or improperly profiting from them. Instead, it’s goal is to provide benefits back to the brokerage community for the listing content provided.

To begin, the most recent changes to our EULA were about two things and two things only: 

  • Multifactor authentication: Our front-end vendors wanted this security enhancement and we’re happy to install it as it optimizes our data security.
  • Appeal rights: We added a provision to ensure brokers have the right to correct issues that may arise during arbitration. 
  • And that’s it. 

The specific language that you recently pointed out on social media about listing control and display in the EULA has been there for years. Why that language exists requires a bit of a history lesson, so humor me as I explain how what we provide is a good thing to all parties. 

Systemwide Copyright and Data Protection 

For many years, CRMLS (along with many other large MLSs) made quarterly filings with the US Copyright Office to protect the MLS database and safeguard intellectual property.

However, the Copyright Office denied protection, claiming that MLS data was just a directory, meaning the information could not be copyrighted. In response, CRMLS and other MLSs worked together to educate the Copyright Office on the creative elements within MLS listings.

To prove our claim, CRMLS submitted Operations Committee meeting minutes, where dozens of our participating agents and brokers debated the necessity and purpose of every MLS data field. This illustrated the creative decision making and coordination involved in building the MLS system as the MLS determines what is part of the official listing record. 

As a result, the Copyright Office has since recognized MLS listings as eligible for protection, allowing us to better protect agents’ work from unauthorized use.

Which brings us to REdistribute…

REdistribute and Data Control 

Now that the MLS had a say on its database, we went to work trying to make new ways for the data to work for our users. For years, we had seen grey market activity by people who have access to the MLS selling its data to those who didn’t, which meant brokers and agents weren’t being compensated for the valuable information they provided. Conservative estimates for how much money was being made this way started at around $5 million per year, with the potential to have gone as high as $100 million. So, we saw an opportunity to monetize the data in a way that puts money back in the pockets of those who provided it. Thus, REdistribute was born, and language to support it was included in the EULA several years ago. 

REdistribute is an independent company born as a joint venture between MLSs. It packages MLS data for institutional use, so entities like mortgage lenders or banks can get a better concept of the real estate market. Those entities pay to license the data, and the MLS can then allocate those payments back to the brokerages who provided the data. 

This system recognizes that the value of the listing belongs to the agents and brokers who created it. It doesn’t mean that the MLS “owns” the data. If every agent were to have individual ownership of their listing, then every use of the data outside the MLS (think AVMs or IDX feeds) would require approval from all the thousands of CRMLS brokers. That’s unfeasible. The MLS manages the data in ways that benefit our users, but that data is only valuable as a set, not as a bunch of individual fragments. 

In short, CRMLS worked to protect listing data under copyright and helped create REdistribute to legally share and monetize brokerage data, allowing MLSs to bring that value back to brokers.

What This Means for Today’s Market

Now that the history lesson is over, let’s talk about what this means for agents and brokers operating today. We’re facing a shrinking market with tighter margins, so CRMLS is always looking for new ways to return value to our brokerage community. 

Have we asked for certain elements of control over listing data? Yes. Have we done it to enrich ourselves? Absolutely not. 

The systems we have in place stand to benefit all our users, regardless of brokerage size, and create an even spread of opportunities for everyone. I wish to see more of this spirit of collaboration in our industry, but that requires trust and honesty from all parties, not random jabs that are devoid of context. 

Before I conclude, Mr. Reffkin, here’s one more piece of history. In September 2023, while at the RISMedia CEO and Leadership Conference, you asked to meet with myself and CRMLS VP Ed Zorn. We were prepared for a conversation on CCP and No Cooperation Listings (aka Office Exclusives). Instead, you spent the better part of an hour discussing topics related to data distribution and the use of listing data. You asked us how we could get the rest of the country to adopt the CRMLS way of handling listings. You praised our ease of access and terms of use. You were frustrated that other MLS entities did things differently and that you had challenges getting complete listing data. CRMLS could deliver what Compass needed in the way of data due to the MLS owning the MLS listing record and only because we had the terms in our EULA that you identified in your post. That ownership allows the MLS to open up the use of the data by all members of the MLS in a consistent and fair manner.

CRMLS remains committed to transparency, accountability, and service to agents, brokers, and consumers. We will continue to focus on providing accurate information and delivering value to the real estate community we proudly represent. Rather than allowing misinformation to divide us, let’s focus on working together to build a stronger and more informed professional community. “

Not so fast Compass…

Exclusive Inventory Update And Zillow’s Catch-22

Assuming the goal is to change agent behavior and reduce exclusive inventory in the market, the metric to watch is the number of Compass exclusive listings.

And here’s where it gets interesting: the number of Compass exclusive listings since Zillow began enforcing its policy is UP – by over 1,300.”

Interesting article by Mike DelPrete. His data shows a decline in Compass exclusive listings when Zillow announced the “ban,” and an increase when Zillow started enforcing the “ban” on private listings. I realize there’s a lot of nuance around which listings are actually “banned” from Zillow, so bear with me.

At first glance, it seems pretty weird and counterintuitive. Rob and I, on our latest Industry Relations podcast, argue about what’s happening. He thinks this means big trouble for Zillow. I think the opposite (big surprise).

My take is it isn’t very clear what data Mike is showing. Are these just new exclusive listings? Or are these total exclusive listings? The title of the chart says “Compass Exclusive Inventory,” so my assumption is it’s all exclusive listings, old and new. If that’s the case, then my argument would be that the reason the number of exclusive listings is rising at Compass is because exclusive listings aren’t selling that quickly. Therefore, stale listings are sticking around longer as new exclusive listings are added, which shows up as an increase.

Are they not selling quickly due to not being on Zillow or just the overall market shifted during the Summer?

Either way, the takeaway is that the data doesn’t always tell the story you think it does — and in this case, it might just be telling us more about Compass than it is about Zillow. 

“Feeling around in the dark”

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America may be copying the worst part of Europe’s real estate market

“In Italy, Boero says, he ended up having to carry out much of his search on foot, hoofing around town to peek at home listings posted in the windows of various brokerages. His real estate agent spent a lot of time on the phone, calling around to see what was available. For Boero, the whole thing felt like “feeling around in the dark.”

Great article from Business Insider.

It’s rare that a journalist outside our industry understands the nuance of the organized real estate market, but James Rodriguez gets it. I was especially glad to see the narrative shift from “banning listings” to something more constructive. Here’s another standout excerpt from the piece:

“In France, they’re laughing at the situation at this moment, honestly,” Ali Attar, a real estate tech executive in Paris, tells me. The system in the US, he says, is more fragile than people realize. “They are taking it for granted in the US,” Attar says. “And as soon as they destroy it, bringing it back will be extremely difficult.”

This is one of the best overviews I’ve seen of the real consequences of the infighting that’s dominating mindshare in the real estate industry.

Behind the scenes of the Zillow listings “ban”

Oh to be a fly on the wall….

COMPASS AGENT: Hey Bill, I just wanted to give you a quick call. Our CEO is in a fight with Zillow and I just wanted you to be aware your house won’t be listed for sale on Zillow.

Bill (Home Seller): Not on Zillow? Why? A fight?

COMPASS AGENT: It’s part of our “3 Phased Marketing” Agreement, remember the agreement you signed when you listed with us?

Bill (Home Seller): I never signed anything that said our house wouldn’t be on Zillow. That’s crazy, we found our house on Zillow ferchistsake…

COMPASS AGENT: Umm, well, we wanted to test the waters, remember, find the right buyer, our CEO says its the best thing eve……

Bill (Home Seller): Are you fucking serious?? I can tell you right now if you don’t put our house of Zillow I’m gonna fire you…

COMPASS AGENT: But what about Days on Market and…

Bill (Home Seller): –click—-

COMPASS AGENT: Bill?….Bill? Bill??? Shit.

Compass: An iBuyer by a different name?

A thought hit me this morning while reading (yet another) piece about Compass suing Zillow over their “three-phased marketing strategy.” You know the one, start off with an “exclusive listing,” then open it up to Compass agents, and eventually put it on the MLS when the seller realizes they’d like actual offers.

It occurred to me: this whole thing smells a lot like the pitch we heard from iBuyers.

Think about it. What were iBuyers really selling? Convenience and certainty. “Skip the open house.” “Pick your closing date.” “Avoid strangers in your home.” That kind of thing. Compass’s exclusive listing strategy is, in many ways, pushing the same emotional buttons. It just has a better front man. Don’t get me wrong. I understand the appeal. I have more Opendoor stock at $22 per share than I care to admit.

But here’s where it gets interesting: Compass says that 94% of their listings end up on the MLS anyway. That stat feels oddly familiar—probably because Opendoor said the same thing when they quietly started syndicating to the MLS after realizing selling homes off-market wasn’t exactly a winning proposition. Hell, they recent shifted their strategy to sending seller lead to agents!

So if Compass listings are eventually going to land on the MLS… what’s the point of the detour?

Offering sellers a “soft launch” gives them a sense of control. Maybe they think their perfect buyer will materialize from Compass’s magical internal network before they have to show the place to the unwashed public. But just like the iBuyer promise of certainty came with a service fee and a haircut on price, the Compass pitch has its own catch: fewer eyeballs, fewer offers, and usually—eventually—a trip to the MLS anyway.

Call it what you want—three phases, soft launch, “concierge listing”—at the end of the day, broad exposure still wins. Everyone eventually runs back to Mama (the MLS).

Exclusive? Maybe. But if the final destination is still the MLS, it starts to feel more like a layover than a luxury.

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Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

Homes.com will ‘boost’ listings that are banned on Zillow: Florance

“Homes.com is going to support any agent who gets blackballed or blacklisted on Zillow, and boost their listing,” he told Inman exclusively on Thursday, adding that access will be free to those impacted by Zillow. “We don’t think it’s right to ban people’s listings for your economic interest.”

But what about the economic interest of the seller or the buyer?

There’s a lot I think Homes.com does well, but every now and then (like now), Mr. Florance seems to be driven by a personal vendetta against Zillow. And look, I’m not always the biggest fan of Zillow either (for example, I don’t think Homes.com ever sued their own clients).

But in the end, this feels like a hollow threat.

To put a finer point on it, I updated the graphic that accompanied the Inman article today.

Compass sues NWMLS

Compass sues Northwest MLS, pulling Windermere along for a ride

The 39-page suit in federal court claims the MLS serving 2,500 member offices in Washington and Oregon has “no meaningful competitors,” and that, as a broker-owned multiple listing service, its Seattle-area brokerage owners with controlling stakes have an interest in limiting competition from new entrants.”

Be careful what you wish for Robert.

“Long live the free market!”

Compass Exclusive Almost Became a $100K Mistake

“But the longer I sat with it the less happy I was. If only two people saw it and we hit this magic number, what if 50 people saw it?

Turns out, the buyer had the same doubts. Is it really worth this much? There are no comps… They backed out. And I felt oddly relieved.

We published on the MLS and Zillow.

Six days later we had an offer $100,000 above our magic number.”

Still perplexed how Compass agents are cool with this strategy.

FAFO MLS Edition

NWMLS shuts off Compass’ IDX feed amid private listing conflict

“The IDX suspension is only the latest chapter in an ongoing saga involving the country’s largest brokerage by sales volume and a powerful independent multiple listing service. The conflict began in late March when Compass CEO Robert Reffkin criticized NWMLS, describing it on Instagram as uniquely restrictive. Reffkin’s comments stemmed from Compass’ efforts to expand the listings it markets privately before posting them to an MLS.”

I gotta wonder how many Compass agents think this feud is productive.

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