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Industry Relations Podcast: When Members Attack!

How do MLS execs and association staff foster innovation? What would happen if MLS decided to leave NAR? Rob and Greg delve into the complex politics behind the relationship between NAR and MLS. They explore what the consequences would be if MLS decided to part ways with NAR. Rob shares his perspective on why MLS would have benefited from taking the vendor route instead of staying with NAR, while Greg raises concerns that the MLS may be apprehensive towards change.
Special shoutout to Cole Robertson and his latest Dungeons and Dragons supplement book!

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Industry Relations Podcast: Headlines, Mid-Year, and Tax-Free Proposals: A Hahn Solo Episode

How is NAR doing at mid-year? Also, get Rob’s undivided attention as he reacts to the latest real estate headlines. It’s a special Hahn solo episode of Industry Relations, as Rob breaks down everything you need to know about the recent NAR mid-year and even reveals his tax-free proposal to combat housing issues. Don’t miss out on all of the news and insights surrounding real estate — tune in for this can’t-miss episode!

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Industry Relations Podcast: Commission Lawsuits: Real Estate Armageddon or No Big Deal?

It’s real estate armageddon! Ok, maybe not. But is it close? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent commission lawsuits that have been plaguing the real estate industry.

In the Moehrl vs. the National Association of Realtors, et al. case, the plaintiffs are pursuing over $13 billion in damages as they claim that they had to incur a cost that ideally should have been paid by the homebuyers themselves in a fair and competitive market, which is the buyer’s agent commission.

Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of these lawsuits and what they could mean for buyers, sellers, and the real estate industry as a whole. We also discuss possible scenarios for how the market could evolve and what real estate professionals can do to prepare themselves for the armageddon ahead; oops, I mean changes ahead.

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Greg’s Website

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Industry Relations Podcast: Why Real Estate Needs Separation of Church and State

What’s it like being a technology company in the world of real estate and MLS? And why does it seem like there needs to be some “separation of church and state.” in real estate? Join Rob and Greg in this episode of Industry Relations as they chat with Stuart White, CEO at Realtracs. They delve into the tech side of real estate and why Realtracs is paving the way in treating MLS members. To see how Stuart and his team are leading real estate tech visit them at Realtracs.

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Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Katie Smithson on RENEW podcast

Great interview of Katie on Lauren Martin’s (of RentSpree) RENEW podcast. I had no idea Katie was so well-versed in the lift capacity of forklifts! Also, check Denee Evans’ interview.

Industry Relations Podcast: How do we make housing affordable for everyone?

How can we make housing affordable for everyone? Rob and Greg explore how we can make housing more accessible and affordable for all. From creative solutions to policy changes, watch as we unpack the different strategies available to make housing affordability a reality. Tune in now to learn how you can help create a future where housing is within reach! 

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023

Industry Relations Podcast: The Future of Real Estate Auctions

DPX–or Decentre Property Exchange–is an online marketplace for real estate. And it comes from the heart and mind of Rob Hahn as a potential solution to current real estate buyer/seller woes. As Rob states, DPX offers transparency, the highest price for a property, efficiency, faster transactions, and a better consumer experience. It’s also duly noted that Rob Hahn, as the mind behind DPX, is treated in this episode more as a guest than a co-host as he is pretty much interviewed by the Fab Greg Robertson. Could real estate auctions be coming to a town near you? Find out what Rob and Greg have to say in this week’s episode of Industry Relations!

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023

Listing Bits Podcast: Elevating Women in Real Estate – with Lauren Martin of RentSpree

Lauren Martin began her career in the fashion industry to be among powerful women.

But when she transitioned to proptech, she realized that real estate is the true pinnacle of girl power. And yet, women are not always represented in leadership.

So, when she landed her current role as Senior Account Director of Partnerships at RentSpree, Lauren approached her CEO about creating RENEW, the Real Estate Network for Empowered Women, an initiative that seeks to connect and champion female professionals across all sectors of the industry nationwide.

On this episode of Listing Bits, Lauren shares her journey from the fashion industry to proptech, describing how what she learned in fashion translates to real estate.

Lauren discusses her role at RentSpree, explaining how the platform partners with MLSs and other proptech companies to streamline the rental process—in a way that serves real estate agents and renters.

Listen in for insight on what inspired Lauren to build RENEW and learn how you can get involved in her initiative to elevate women in real estate!

What’s Discussed:  

How Lauren was poached from a catering company to work in sales at Remine

What Lauren learned in the fashion industry that translates to real estate and proptech

Lauren’s insight on approaching uncomfortable conversations with humor

Lauren’s experiences working with MLS professionals who champion each other

How RentSpree partners with MLSs and proptech companies to streamline the rental process

The revenue sharing model at RentSpree and how MLSs benefit from it

How REALTORS benefit from building relationships with renters early in their housing journey

Lauren’s role handling both MLS and proptech partnerships at RentSpree

Lauren’s best travel hacks for real estate professionals

What inspired Lauren to start the RENEW initiative to elevate women in real estate

Connect with Lauren:

RentSpree

Lauren on LinkedIn

Email laurenm@rentspree.com

RENEW Initiative

The RENEW Podcast by RentSpree

Resources:

Remine

Project Runway

Vendor Alley

SentriLock

Rent the Runway

Teresa King Kinney & Liz Sturrock on The RENEW Podcast EP001

Betsy Hanson of Markt on Listing Bits EP078

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Industry Relations Podcast: Moehrl v. NAR: Rob Walks Greg Back from the Ledge

Could we be witnessing the biggest lawsuit in American real estate? Moehrl v. NAR has officially turned into a class-action lawsuit, which could have major repercussions on how commissions are earned and paid. It could also mean the country’s largest organization for REALTORS could be in some serious financial trouble should the plaintiffs win their case. This episode of Industry Relations dives into the history of this lawsuit and what potential outcomes could be. Let’s go!

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Listing Bits Podcast: Pooling Resources & Expertise Among MLSs – with Betsy Hanson of Markt

From a vendor’s perspective, small MLSs are the most challenging to work with. And that’s no surprise, seeing as how they have fewer resources than the big players in the space.

So, how do we support MLSs with fewer than 400 members in keeping up with NAR rules, for example? Is there a way MLSs might share marketing, support, and compliance services in a way that makes the market work better for all involved?

Betsy Hanson is General Manager and General Counsel at Markt, a multi-MLS service organization focused on pooling resources and expertise to serve MLSs, brokers, and agents. 

On this episode of Listing Bits, Betsy shares her journey from an executive assistant at a small association to her current role at Markt, describing how she avoids the attorney’s reputation as the Department of No.

Betsy offers her take on what organized real estate is missing about the life and times of an ordinary REALTOR, why the average agent doesn’t understand the lawsuits facing the industry, and how those lawsuits might change the way we do things moving forward.

Listen in to understand how Markt works as an MLS back-office provider and learn how Betsy and her team are uniquely positioned to help MLSs of all sizes with local market delivery.

What’s Discussed:  

Betsy’s journey from an executive assistant at a small association to General Counsel at Markt

What differentiates the role of executive assistant from that of the chief of staff

How Betsy avoids the attorney’s reputation as the Department of No

Betsy’s experience teaching English in China between undergrad and law school

What organized real estate is missing about the life and times of an ordinary REALTOR

Why the average REALTOR-on-the-street doesn’t know about the lawsuits facing the industry

How public perception of REALTORS remains positive despite lawsuits around compensation

Betsy’s predictions re: how the lawsuits facing organized real estate might play out

How Markt began as a way for MLSs to pool support resources and create efficiencies

Markt’s potential to solve the challenge small MLSs face in keeping up with NAR rules

Connect with Betsy:

Markt

Email betsy@themarkt.com

Resources:

Notorious ROB

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